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We
all are beginning to feel
the stress of growth
Eight
top bankers and the financial sector met at The Business Standard
round table to discuss the topic Can the banking system support
Indias growth? The round table was organised on November
1 in Mumbai.
Vinod
Rai, secretary, financial sector, Government of India, India; OP
Bhatt, chairman, State Bank of India; KV Kamath, MD and CEO, ICICI
Bank; Sanjay Nayar, CEO, Citigroup, India; Naina Lal Kidwai, country
head, HSBC India; VP Shetty, chairman, IDBI; MBN Rao, CMD, Canara
Bank; AK Khandelwal, CMD, Bank of Baroda; and M Balachandran, CMD,
Bank of India, brainstormed the issue for two hours. The discussion
was moderated by Business Standards Tamal Bandyopadhyay. Excerpts:
Tamal
Bandyopadhyay: Welcome to Indias biggest banking
event. India Incs capital expenditure has been growing phenomenally
from Rs 38,000 crore in 2002 to Rs 1.1 lakh crore last year.
Over the next five years, listed Indian companies plan to invest
Rs 9.5 lakh crore. Can the banking system support this demand? Bank
credit has been growing at about 30 per cent every year but the
Reserve Bank of India wants to rein in this growth as there are
signs of overheating in certain pockets. Against this backdrop,
we will hear CEOs of the countrys top eight banks, accounting
for over 55 per cent of the total banking assets, and a representative
from the government which owns 75 per cent of the industry.
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Vinod
Rai: To the best of its ability, the government
is trying to support the banking system to sustain the growth
story. We are proactive. You must appreciate the fact that
the thought processes or philosophies in the government are
not homogeneous. We need to carry market players, legislators,
regulators, clients and everybody else along with us.
Regulators
worldwide are conservative because they play the role of an
umpire. They need to keep an eye on all institutions and ensure
that all micro elements are in place to achieve the goal.
Despite that, the regulator has also been, to the extent possible,
proactive.
The banking and financial institutions should gear themselves
up and bring in operational efficiency. On our part, we have
to ensure that we have the capital. The RBI, in its credit
policy, has opened the global window for banks by allowing
them higher overseas borrowing...
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We
must look at the issue of aggressive use of our overseas branches
to mop up deposits
Vinod
Rai,
secretary, financial sector
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Bandyopadhyay:
The government is ready to extend all support to keep growth momentum.
Lets hear the bankers.
MBN
Rao: The GDP is growing at around 8 per cent but the
credit-GDP ratio is about 45 per cent compared with 107 per cent
in Korea, 126 per cent in Taiwan and much more in China. We need
to increase the credit flow. But theconstraint is resources. Last
year the incremental credit deposit ratio was 100 per cent. This
year the incremental CD ratio has been 95 per cent and surplus liquidity
of about Rs 2,07,000 crore by way of excess statutory liquidity
ratio has come down to Rs 1,23,000 crore. All these indicate that
there is demand for credit offtake but we must find ways to raise
resources.
The
currency with public is growing by about 17 per cent. There is definitely
a scope for higher intermediation. We must also explore foreign
resources by way of three channels equity, debt and deposits.
Our intermediation cost will come down if we are able to attract
foreign funds.
M
Balachandran: In the 70s it was a question of reaching
out in social banking; in the 80s it was consolidation and
in the 90s it was an era of growth with reforms... If the
growth has to be sustained, we need to look into all the segments
of the economy manufacturing, services, agriculture...
There
are areas of concerns like long-term resources. This is going to
be a big challenge. Indians are traditionally known as savers and
we have reasons to hope that the deposit accretion in the banking
industry will continue but the importance will be on asset-liability
profile.
The
other issues are skill and technology. Equally important is the
risk management of corporations with whom we deal. Then, we need
to reach out to rural areas for financial inclusion. Finally, we
must have the scale.
Sanjay
Nayar: I dont think things are going to be automatic.
We are all growing and in our typical way and we can always say
that India will keep growing and everything is fine. The biggest
problem will come from the supply side. Look at the credit policy.
There is a clear signal that the demand side is picking up but the
supply side is constrained. We cannot look to the regulator all
the time and say, please increase money supply.
It
is an under-penetrated market. The infrastructure sector alone needs
about $180 billion funding in the next three years and the current
asset base of the banking industry is just $350 million. To match
this, we need long-term funds. In the absence of a robust loan syndication
market and corporate bond market, the onus falls on banks.
I
am pretty sure that we are not at all equipped to fund this kind
of growth and have the right asset-liability matching to be able
to fund infrastructure. Let us forget about government borrowing,
retail under-penetration and all other demands of the banking sector.
Infrastructure alone gives you a very telling story of how inadequate
is our size.
Then
look at the fragmentation of the whole sector. It is probably the
second most fragmented market after Turkey, which is going to consolidate.
We have 88 banks and we need to get the consolidation process going
as we do not have the economies of scale. The fragmentation of the
sector leads to some very concurrent problems which are not evident
but at least I feel that we are beginning to see inadequacy of even
the labour supply. We all are beginning to feel the stress of growth.
There are huge issues on skill sets and employee turnover.
We
have always taken an attitude that India is going to happen. Im
sure it will happen but it is time that we move on from this things
will happen approach to a more concerted approach and have
conviction in the interplay of policy regulator and structural changes.
The 20th largest bank in China probably has more market capitalisation
than the entire banking industry in India. I will stop at that.
I thought somebody had to be controversial.
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