In an interview with Oprah Winfrey set to air Monday on CBS, the first lady says the US is feeling what it's like to not have hope. She says "hope" was more than a slogan for her husband's campaigns and asks: "What else do you have if you don't have hope?"
Obama also says the president served in ways the people will eventually appreciate. She says the White House needs a "grown-up" who can reassure the public during a crisis.
Michelle does not mention Trump by name.
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