Why do you think the penetration is low, and what do we need to do, going ahead?
Has the groundwork been laid for the insurance sector to grow?
Ritesh Kumar: The fact remains that for any sector once it opens up, there are a set of things that need to be done. On the global level, depending on how one looks at it, there is a gap. But, I think a sound foundation has been laid, and what would be important for the industry is to attract capital. At the end of the day, the Rs 2.5 trillion has to become Rs 10 trillion. Therefore, it is also important that we look at some of these important aspects in terms of making the industry attractive to the market.
So, where do you see the penetration, at least exponentially, say by 2030?
Poludasu: More and more new products and innovative ways of dealing with the customers be it in the sourcing of the business or servicing the claim settlements with appropriate support from the digital architecture have been evolving in the industry due to the leverage provided by the regulator.
Also, new players are entering the industry and all these things will help in improving the penetration and awareness across the nation. To this account, even the Government of India is also contributing equally by pushing more and more health schemes and crop insurance.
More state governments have joined the Ayushman Bharat and the crop insurance schemes in the recent past. This will help us to appropriately keep in place the transfer mechanism for all the infrastructure projects which have been implemented by the push of the Government of India. With the kind of projects which are coming up and opportunities available, we will see growth coming in the engineering segment and decent growth in the motor and health segments.
Do you think the Bima Trinity will change the business?
Poludasu: Absolutely. I think when you talk about the initiatives by the regulator in terms of putting in place, we call it a Bima Trinity: Bima Vistar, Bima Vahak and Bima Sugam. If you talk about Bima Vistar, it is a comprehensive product where the insurance industry is coming together and deriving a common product wherein people can choose as per their requirements and the pricing is also affordable. Bima Vahak is one of the channels which the regulator is pushing, mainly with woman-centric rural penetration in view.
Globally, among consumers, I would say there is a trust deficit or a bit of confidence deficit and that comes from servicing difficulties. If this part is solved, it will truly expand the industry. But, at the same time, any effort by anyone is only going to help the industry grow further.
What are the broad changes that are expected from this risk-based capital and risk-based solvency and how is that going to impact the industry?
Kumar: Currently, we have what is typically called a solvency quantity. Now, what this means is that it's a standard sort of bar for everyone. To my mind, the risk-based capital or the risk-based solvency moves into what we call principle-based solvency. Today, any company that has 100 per cent of a particular portfolio largely needs to keep the same amount of capital. What will change tomorrow is that people who have a more diversified portfolio will have to keep less capital. So, it starts giving some benefits for diversification.
Today, if 40 per cent of my portfolio is insured in a particular line of business, I may reinsure it with the world’s best and this company may reinsure it with something else. We still have the same capital relief. Tomorrow, the quality
Will the risk-based capital change the product or portfolio mix of companies?
Dasgupta: The risk-based approach could drive strategy. At the end of the day, it depends on how capital-constrained you are and whether you are forced to choose your lines of business based on your capital constraints. However, I think it will help in allocating the right amount of capital for the right set of risks. If one has a lot more granular business, where the volatility is less, there should be some benefits. If one runs a book that has a high equity exposure, one should put more capital. These are the correct measures. When one says risk-based capital, it need not mean the same for everyone. Within risk-based capital, there is a standard model, an internal risk-based model.
An important point is the extent of diversification benefit. During the pandemic, multiline general insurance companies had a reasonably robust year as compared to monoline companies. The multiline companies did not dip in capital, which shows the power of diversification. And, at the end of the day, solvency is to protect the company from going bankrupt or insolvent. So, it was a true test of a Six Sigma event and the industry rising to the challenge. So, these are things that a proper risk-based capital mechanism should factor in and account for.
Do you see health being dominant in the general insurance industry?
Dahiya: I think all roads lead to health, is my view of the general insurance industry. It is a difficult, complex area. Recently, there was a misdeclaration; it was a port policy. The company settled the claim for a hospitalisation bill of Rs 11 lakh for four days. There was not a single voice which said that the bill was too high. Somewhere, we have to understand that health insurance pays for health care. Health care bills have been funded. How does the health insurance industry keep up with sympathy towards declarations and misdeclarations? So, I think it’s a complicated area. Even if I speak to most of the insurance companies, they have no clear answers on how to get this resolved. Countries have solved this as a combination of efforts from government and private or a combination of health care and the insurance industry. It's not a simple problem. It’s not a trivial problem to solve. The industry, yes, it will grow. It has been growing at 18 per cent. It will keep growing. However, if you look at the fresh health insurance business, the health insurance industry has seen perhaps a growth of zero per cent in the past few quarters. So, porting is now almost 30 per cent of the industry where one company’s policy is moving to another company. This is despite having a good price range as an industry.
What is the reason for not having growth in the fresh health insurance business?
Dahiya: I think it’s a difficult claims environment. I think there are two reasons for that. The customers believe they are covered for a lot more than what their policy says. I also feel doctors are struggling with claims at the back end as the quality of the charge and the nature of the cost comes up. And I think the hospitals do have a similar problem. In many places, hospitals charge more than the customer’s insurance. The costs are not the same.
Kumar: At the core is the fact that health insurance needs to be affordable. It’s very easy for an insurance company to go out and pay all the claims. Meanwhile, with a lead or a lag, the premiums will go up. So I think it is a very complex problem. How do we handle fraud? We are a regulated industry. On the other side, the provider is not regulated. So these are complex problems. The other thing is, the more transparent we get as an industry, the faster the turnaround times are. I also want to put it across that there is a very, very important initiative that we as an industry are trying to move which is to move health insurance to 100 per cent cashless. The bulk of the problems that we face as an industry today are because there is a significant amount of claims that come in as real cases. In India, if one settles something in cash, you will pay lower than what the insurers pay. Now if you look at insurers as cash cows who are going to just be paying claims because as corporates they have a larger pocket, that's not going to solve the problem. Because at the end of the day, I think affordability is what we are missing. We can settle a claim instantly.
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