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Convergence between India and China has diminished: Shyam Saran (IANS Interview)

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The areas of convergence between and are diminishing while those of confrontation have become "more salient", former Foreign Secretary Shyam Saran says, adding that had "judiciously" handled the two-month standoff on the Doklam plateau.

He also says that and Pakistan had almost come to an agreement on demilitarising the Siachen glacier and mentions a "missed opportunity" to solve the Sir Creek dispute in Kutch.

"There are areas where and have convergent interests, but at the same time there are very divergent interests that are continuing as disputes between the two countries because of the unresolved border disputes. Essentially, over the last several years we have followed a strategy of building upon the areas of convergence with but at the same time confronting whenever our interests are threatened.

"If we compare the Indo-relationship from the time I was the Foreign Secretary (2004-06) and what we see today, the big difference that appears, at least from the Chinese perspective, is that the areas of convergence have diminished in their importance while, inevitably, the areas of confrontation have become more salient," the 71-year old career diplomat told IANS in an interview around his new book "How Sees The World" (Juggernaut/Rs 599/320 Pages).

Elaborating further on this shift in Beijing's foreign policy, Saran said that now believes its GDP is five times the size of and thus it has the dominant position and power in Asia. "It also has a sense that other countries in the region should accept its dominance and when there is a resistance to that, it leads to a rather negative reaction from China," he said, adding that, according to him, the Doklam standoff is "a symptom of that changed attitude" between the two countries.

"In handling the Doklam crisis, has shown both a certain level of prudence, (and) at the same time a level of firmness. I think it has been a good and judicious combination of being very calm and mature in our reactions to very harsh rhetoric from China, but at the same time maintaining a very firm position that the two sides need to go back to the status quo and China, having disturbed the status quo, has the responsibility to not escalate it further," noted Saran, who has served as India's ambassador to Myanmar, Indonesia and Nepal and as High Commissioner to Mauritius and also being a Prime Minister's Special Envoy after retirement.

Saran maintained that despite border disputes between the two countries, it is possible to manage the situation at the frontier without letting it spill over into a clash of arms. And, he added, as long as and Beijing maintain a very high level of engagement, their relations will remain on an even keel.

Responding to a question on the future of Sino-Indian ties, he said: "The management of this responsibility is not only the unilateral responsibility of India, we also need to look at the Chinese perspective and try to bring the perspective of the two countries closer to one another, or more aligned to one another. This can only be possible through dialogue."

Asked whether needs to take the growing relationship of with Russia more seriously, Saran said that the entire international situation is undergoing a transition and so we cannot expect that any alignment or relationship will continue unaltered for a prolonged period.

"This is a reality we have to accept; but at the same time, in the long term, there continues to be a strong convergence of interest between and Russia. So even if we take into account the factor, because most of the anxiety in is about how close Russia and have become, my own sense is that going further, especially in the long term, China's interests and Russia's interests are not quite aligned. Any expansion of Chinese presence in Central Asia or Eastern Europe, as we see happening, will not be accepted by Russia.

"These are two areas which are of great importance to Russia and, therefore, whatever may try to do to reduce the anxiety with Russia, I think it is inevitable that and Russia will not find a commonality of interest, particularly in areas which are of importance to We should not react too negatively to the growing Russia-ties, knowing full well that in the longer term, India's and Russia's interests are likely to be much closer together than would be the case with China," he contended.

The most startling revelation that Saran makes in "How Sees The World" is that and Pakistan had almost come to an agreement on demilitarising the Siachen Glacier. According to the book, the draft agreement had been approved by all stakeholders. But the then Army Chief General J.J. Singh and then NSA M.K. Narayanan put forward last-minute reservations, which led to the cancellation of the proposal. The event had unfolded ahead of the Defence Secretary-level talks in May 2006.

His book also talks about a "missed opportunity" to resolve the Sir Creek issue. "The Indian Navy had come up with a very innovative approach which would have determined the maritime boundary from a point out in the sea on the edge of the countries' respective continental shelves, with equal lines drawn to points on each coast. This would have left a triangular zone of about a hundred square kilometres just at the mouth of the Sir Creek without a demarcation," he writes in the book.

There was keen interest in Pakistan to follow this approach, Saran maintains, but was unable to explore this further when the Siachen deal fell through.

After completing his tenure as Foreign Secretary, Saran was appointed the Prime Minister's Special Envoy for the India-US civil nuclear deal and later as Special Envoy and Chief Negotiator on Climate Change.

(Saket Suman can be contacted at saket.s@ians.in)

--IANS

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First Published: Mon, September 11 2017. 12:18 IST
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